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YES -
I'm not sure what the hulabaloo is about here. The Rules
Applying to Registration and Discipline have contained the
exact above-quoted language since at least January 1, 2001
(which is the oldest hard copy in my possession that I could
find easily). The whole of Chapter 3, Section 6 is
unchanged since that date, actually. The blurb from the
Board Minutes quoted in the article (meeting of 4/08 for
those wishing to read the Minutes themselves) seem simply to
be a notification by Staff that they will be approving
registrations per the guidelines in Chapter 3, Section 6 -
as they've been able to do for at least 7.5 years.
Jennifer Walker
What
is AKC thinking? It will open up a very big can of worms … I
thought they were all about PURE BRED dogs…if there are
no papers how will they determine the lineage?
…unbelievable! Pam
It
seems like the only way to handle an inferior pup would be
to have it neutered in advance of placing it in a pet home
or having it put down. Not fair to the breeder nor the
pup. Max E. Hurd
This
is the biggest slap in the face of responsible breeders that
AKC has ever implemented. I am appalled!! Registration
papers are withheld FOR A REASON … for AKC to provide a
means of circumventing that makes a joke out of AKC's
slogan, "We're the dog's champion." Kim Lovewell
The
AKC is desperately looking for ways to generate additional
income. Greed has always been a precursor to an
eventual downfall. AKC is and was founded on the sport of
pure bred dogs. The mandate of a responsible breeder is to
improve the breed, not desecrate it. … How can the AKC be
so callous as to over throw the validity of the responsible
breeders? … I will now modify my (S/N, Limited) contract, so
as to say that no dogs name can be changed for any
reason. I now embrace the total litter registration, so
that none of my dogs can be subject to a name change. …
AKC might look to itself to see why less dogs are being
registered with them and are instead, going to other
registries. Many are looking to the UKC to show! For
$65.00 on a weekend, you get 4 show entries and the
possibility of a championship!
Mary E
Kasher
Why
would AKC … reduce the value of its own reputation?
We would become just another registration outfit that would
pass out papers with no real value. Right now, "AKC" is THE
registration that most would really prefer. Why change
that! Chere Fuessel
I
can't believe the AKC is doing this. It must be about money
because it sure isn't about the breeder. If I determine a
dog is not to be bred or shown, that is my right
and responsibility.
How are they going to
determine
there is no break in lineage? They have to go back to the
breeder and expect us to cooperate? Then what, suspend us
for failure to cooperate? They will drive reputable
breeders
to other registries. Candice Harper
Are
all the many years of study and culling going for naught?
Think deeply about the possible results of the new
registration service. Ruth
Merrill
(Goldenledge Kennel
since 1948)
As a
delegate for the American Airedale Terrier Club I know that
the delegates were not told of this and as a body we
are set against this Service. As a breeder of Norwich
Terriers again I am greatly disappointed in the direction
that AKC is going… Selling the integrity of our
dogs’ pedigree for the all mighty dollar. Carole
Bullwinkle-Foucrault
… No
reason for a puppy buyer to seek full registration unless
he is planning to breed a dog/bitch that a breeder has
deemed less than appropriate to breed. (This) will insure
more poor quality purebreds and add to the
unwanted dog issue. Do we need to go there? Susan
Osher
We have
been responsible breeders with registered AKC Saint Bernards
for almost 40 years. … We spent much time and money taking
care of and safeguarding our breed. I can't think of any
logical reason (except more money for AKC) to allow this
to happen. Diana Oliver
Why
should we even bother
to register anything? I have been breeding for 50 years and
this is a travesty of all we all have worked for. Might as
well go to one of the other registries that gives us more
for our money, forget about showing … s/n before selling?
Janis Church
After
spending countless hours and money … it seems that AKC
has become a joke. It reminds me of those 'college'
degrees where you pay the money and get the degree without
having to go to class. Jeri Sutherling
Then
AKC might just as well remain as a registry and can all
activities for purebred dogs. What’s the point?
Elizabeth Pearson
The
AKC already has ILP for folks that would want to show
their possibly purebred dog in performance events. The AKC
also offers Limited registration. WHY would we need more? Sally
Atterberry
…
frustrating that all of my hard work and dedication to the
Breed can be diminished in a few quick signatures and a
hand-shake. … So when I sell puppies I now have to make
sure … that any change of hands goes through me as I would
need to continue another contract? And what happens in
10 years when all of the BYB not doing clearances… have
thousands and thousands of dogs produced that the average
middle income family can not take care of because they have
all these issues. So they are sent to the pound and
eventually euthanized … what responsibility does the AKC
have in all of this- None. They collect a check and mail
out a Registration number, and never worry about the pup
attached to that number. Jennifer Carroll
This is
an outrage! I see it every day in my grooming shop … people
that think because a dog has AKC papers it's breeding
quality …I've see AKC pull some pretty stupid stunts in
my 45 years in the dog game. This one sits right up
there on top. Jay Campion
This
will effectively lower AKC registration to the status
of the rest of the “register anything registries.” I was
under the impression AKC was working toward improving the
integrity of its stud book with DNA and chipping, but I
guess I am wrong again. Carla Joyce
I am not
a breeder. I "rescue" dogs and cats. When people contact
our group seeking a puppy (our average age for purebreds is
4 years) and of course we have NO puppies, I suggest they
purchase a puppy … registered with the AKC - and NOT the
"other" registries that will register a frog if they are
paid to do so. Kidding of course - but the prospective
purchasers get the idea. If this goes through- I'll have
to suggest they buy a stuffed dog from the pet shop for
all the good any registry will do them. J.A. Piccola
I
vote no on allowing this additional means to register a dog
… when the breeder, who's passion it is to protect the
integrity of the breed, has determined it should not be
bred. Jodi Sorensen
I
can't believe AKC is doing this, it is so wrong. If I sold
a pup on limited registration or without papers, it was for
a very good reason (genetic or bad conformation, etc.). As
in they should not be bred!!!!! AKC is only enabling the
larger problem of puppy mills. … What on earth were they
thinking when they decided on this other than seeing dollar
signs $$$$$$. What happened to integrity? AKC used
to stand for something. Randy Daniels
This is
the reason I have pushed hard for two tiered registration
- people could tell whether their puppy was from a top
quality breeder (with) health and performance tests required
to get the higher rating. Accredited breeders would be
listed and have different color papers. Buyers could tell
at a glance which type of breeder they are working with.
(now) any reasonably intelligent person can snow a buyer
over the phone. Magazines and websites all tell the buyer
what questions to ask, do they assume the sellers also
can't read the "correct" answers? Two-tiered system
would do more to protect the interests of purebred dogs.
Tam Cordingley
(They)
are forcing me to do is spay and neuter all pups at
an age they shouldn’t be in order to keep them out of the
breeding pools of puppy mills. I will do whatever it takes
to keep my bloodline out of the hands of … greedy breeders.
Pet owners buy puppies from show breeders because they know
the effort we put in to make sure every pup is healthy and
well bred. … It is difficult enough now for them to find
quality pets. Please rethink the way you (AKC) are making
extra money. You are not only damaging our reputation
but eventually, your own. The Bucklands
… only
dogs of true quality that have been evaluated in shows or
working events should be bred. By accepting this ruling,
you will allow the breeding of genetically unsound animals
that will in turn ruin not only the sport of purebred dogs
or purebred dogs in general, but also your ability to
keep GOOD breeders spending MONEY in your registry.
Pat, Shadomoon Aussies
How
can AKC be so against the good breeder who does not
reg. a pup because its not a good breeding prospect. This
only helps them and the puppy mills. Billie Bunch
This
will not improve the "AKC" registered line. It will
allow people to produce puppies get them registered and pass
on faults we are worked so hard to breed out. I have collies
and we have worked hard to correct our breeding flaws to
better the health of our breed. Dianne Bishop
Thank
you for alerting reputable breeders… I am very disappointed
to hear this news … especially when we as breeders declined
the (pet) buyer rights to breed the puppies. If our voice,
as breeders, will be heard by AKC, then I am most
certainly opposed to this new rule!!!! Denise Hillman
AKC is supposed to be a registry to PROTECT the purebred
dogs. Perhaps another registry should be formed …
(There are some you know and if NO PET BREEDERS ALLOWED were
to get together and inform the whole world just how greedy
AKC is for money I am sure that it would fly Foreign
countries like Germany and others will look down their noses
again during our lifetime at the false registry that is
coming about. Nonesuchpugs
Why
bother (with) limited registration if new owners can
register dog anyway? Do you notify the breeder that you
are registering one of their limited registration dogs? If
not, no owner trying to get registration on a pet quality
dog will admit to signing a contract anyway. … I for
years have carefully followed AKC rules … I am so sad to
hear about this change and the start of the destruction
of purebreds.... I'm not sure I want to continue
registering litters. What's the point? Betty Christl
…
a great disservice to all the breeders over the
decades who have spent their lives dedicated to the
preservation and improvement of their respective breed and
who have supported and promoted the value of AKC and
purebred registered dogs. Lisa Cozad
I have been breeding purebred dogs for 40 years now. I
remember when AKC was a registry service. Now they take
every opportunity to make more bucks, even as to go
so far as to mislead the new owners to---- Step
one....choose one of the following optional , Step two
choose the lost and found, etc. Buy on Dog.com, get
insurance etc. It looks like you should choose and you
don't have to. People are paid a lot of money nowadays to
"schnooker people" it is too bad that a formerly
respected service would mislead people. Where will it end?
Eileen Brouck
I have been breeding since 1958 and I do NOT approve this
slap in my face by AKC. I do not give papers to pet
buyers, there is no need … My contract is Neuter / Spay.
Dana Doty |
YES - I
would ordinarily not approve of this but because of a
ridiculous situation I'm personally involved in, I'm all for
it. The AKC ain't what it used to be. I'm sure
*most* do still care first and foremost about the dogs, but
*many* employees and delegates are corrupt and are primarily
concerned about the bottom line (preserving their
paychecks.) I would not be in the ridiculous situation if
the AKC had the testicular fortitude to stand up to a
"parent club" regarding a serious health issue in my breed.
Lesley - Redwood City, CA
At my
age and over 25 years breeding, showing, training, it feels
like it is time to hang it up... If AKC has all the
power to decide who gets registered no matter how the
breeder feels, (I will) save my money and time and take
long, over due vacations… it is all about MONEY…..
Eleanor Jackson
My
breed club just went through a big issue with accepting
into membership a major puppy miller last year, then
pulling his membership. I'll bet the puppy miller is
thrilled over this ruling. Tamie Ince
It
is unconscionable that AKC would (allow) breeding a puppy
that the educated, responsible breeder deemed unworthy of
reproduction. ... we are finding that there are several
serious drawbacks to altering at this early age,
including increased risk of epiphyseal fractures in many
breeds, and early onset osteosarcoma at least in the larger
breeds. … This goes beyond the concern of having one's line
showing up in poorly planned pedigrees; it endangers the
health and viability of the breed. … We are supposed to be
responsible breeders; please, AKC, let us be just that!
Gaea Mitchel, DVM
I can’t
believe they are doing this to us. Where is the
integrity of the AKC registration now?
Eva Marie Mitchell, S/T
NO
WAY......can you see early spay and neuter which is
less than encouraged by KOWLEDGEABLE veterinarians and
breeders. Sharon McCadam
The
vast majority of those who use AKC services have no
(Delegate) representation at all as they don’t belong to a dog club
(or) delegates frequently vote as they please and not as a
club might want them to. I know with the club I used to be
in … the delegate was simply whoever could afford to
attend the meetings or lived close enough to do it.
Nancy Holmes
AKC
registration is the only thing that separates the good
breeders from every other registry. Without the value of
this "elitist" registration, why bother with AKC at all???
They are dealing their own death sentence. Joyce Carelli
This
potential policy had so many bad effects, from
destroying the integrity of the stud books to destroying the
efforts of ethical and responsible breeders. Ann H.
Sherman
What is
to prevent the new puppy owner from just printing off a
pedigree from someone’s website and telling the AKC it is
the pedigree they received with their new puppy, but they
did not get any “papers”? When I spoke to someone at the AKC
about this development … I was told if I wanted to prevent
such things from happening I needed to register my
litters, then each of my puppies separately, and then
have the new owners re-register the puppy when it was
sold as “limited”. Can you hear the “cha-ching”? … What a
sad commentary for … those who put such schemes ahead of
the welfare of the very dogs the AKC professes to
protect. Katherine Kasten
I send
my puppies out on spay/neuter contracts and don't provide
their AKC papers until I receive a vet certificate. Buyers
who can now register any dog will cause a lot of damage
to the breeds if there is no longer this type of control
allowed. Deb Withrow
I am
appalled that AKC will override … the breeders explicit
determination that the dog is Placed In A Home Without
Papers, or sold only with Limited Registration … This is
not in the best interests of the purebred dog fancy!
This is not good business practice! Vicki Worthington
This is
an outrageous move by AKC. The Delegates need to get
involved and stop this effort. Sherri Smith
I am not
surprised… at the actions of the AKC. This is ONE of the
main reasons for over 15 years now I have refused to
register ANY pup in the litter I was not keeping for myself
or going into a show home. Pet buyers know when they call
me … a few fuss about it but… I would not sell a puppy to
anyway. Maybe its time for the breeders of America to
get together and start our own registration process.
Anything has to be better than what the AKC offers.
Linda Kendall Smith
If
a breeder sells a puppy with no papers or limited
registration, there is a reason for it and AKC should
not thwart these efforts… If someone wants a puppy that is
fully registered, they should buy one that is sold that
way—not circumvent the system. Marlette Love-Goodnight
Registering dogs sold as non-breeding stock? Without
permission of the breeder? Is there a better way to wholly
devalue AKC Registration? I can't think of one. What a
slap in the face to conscientious breeders! Jeri
Jennings
What’s
the point… (it) makes the limited registration worthless,
unless all the puppies are altered before they ever leave
the breeder. This is a big mistake for AKC who is
supposed to be a leader. This is more like something APRI
or ACA would do ... Kristal Couch
If
I sell a puppy under limited registration it is because the
dog is not a good representative of the breed. Undescended
testicles, over sized, under sized, genetic health issues. …
If you allow anyone who didn't get papers or who got limited
registration papers with their pup to have full registration
they will damage the breed by raising puppies who will bring
diseases and problems to the breed that reputable breeders
have been working for years to get rid of. There are laws
cropping up all over the United States to control the
overpopulation … you are only going to contribute to
the problem. Allowing an ILP would be fine … but
allowing anyone who claims to have a purebred dog the
papers they say they have coming is only going to cause a
disaster in this country. … How to prove that they have
the dog that they say they have? This sounds like a
place you don't really want to go. Marie Rodgers
This
simply sounds like a way for the AKC to generate funds
… on the other hand, I don’t know a reputable breeder who
sells any of their pups without a written contract, which
among other stipulations also states ownership of the pup
cannot be transferred without the written consent of the
breeder, which according to this article is the key
safeguard against this “service”. Debbie Sutor
This
is a huge mistake on the part of the AKC. Responsible
breeders devote a lifetime of hard work and heart aches
to protect their breed of choice and this rule change could
destroy that lifetime of hard work. This cannot be allowed
to happen. Judy Simmons
…
the breeder's hard work is now diluted and the novice puppy
buyer is not able to distinguish well-bred dogs and "the
puppy mill" puppies, yes, I said puppy mill which
this will become. A breeder would like to look up to the
AKC as an honest registration organization, but now, it is
feeling less than honest. How about finding other ways to
increase income, or tighten your belts like the rest
of us have had to do!! Patricia A. Collier
If
bypassing the responsible breeders' original intentions is
what AKC intends with this new ruling - count me out,
out, all the way out!! - you will find more and more AKC
breeders seceding to other registries - one where we
have a voice and rules are not voted upon by the staff.
Pam Williams
…
AKC is undermining their own reason for being…
tabling the idea to register spayed/neutered mixed breeds
for competitive sports. What's the difference? Ah, yes.
(This) will provide unlimited dollars into the AKC piggy
bank depending on how fast those puppies can be pumped out
and registered by newly papered parents, while the tabled
idea would only have allowed the limited registration of an
occasional pup … mandatory neutering/spaying, thereby
knocking off future monies from further breedings. These
board members are out of touch with the very dog
fanciers who give AKC a good name… Without reputation, what
is the reason for an AKC to exist? Helen Verte
I think
this is a stupid thing the AKC is doing to purebred dogs. I
think all AKC dog events should be boycotted …
Unfortunately, this would affect the clubs putting these
events on. But something must be done to show AKC
that breeders who strive for excellent representatives of
their breed which are healthy won't tolerate this BS.
Lola Leland
How can
I continue to stand 100% behind my lines if I cannot
guarantee control over which puppies are allowed to carry on
these lines? It would only take one unscrupulous owner
to have my line produce puppies that do not meet the strict
health, screening, temperament and breeding standards that I
have spent decades in establishing. If dogs that
responsible breeders deem to be "pet quality" are allowed
breeding privileges it will undermine the integrity that we
have spent years and small fortunes building. I urge the
AKC to reconsider the ramifications of this registration
service toward those who are fighting the hardest to
maintain the integrity of the purebred dog. I am not
writing this because I am against the AKC....far from it, as
I am also an AKC Obedience and Rally judge. Catherine
Peters.
… let's
fight this .. It undermines the efforts of ethical
breeders. Laurie S. Coger, DVM, CVCP
I sell
all pet puppies on spay/neuter and LIMITED registration. If
they are allowed to change the limited registration people
will also probably not spay and neuter! On the other
hand I guess I will no longer be giving my buyers AKC PAPERS
because of this AND the fact that they can change the
name on the papers! Only the puppy I keep will be
registered with AKC. Heidi Brauch
As
someone standing outside the issue completely, I thought a
registered dog with AKC papers was a big deal. Then I met a
woman who purchased a toy poodle and had a difficult time
getting the papers. When I stopped by her house a year
later, a big dog jumped on me so hard it knocked the breath
out of me. I did not think that was a toy poodle, in fact,
I could not have identified his breed, yet she had AKC
papers that proved that he was a toy poodle. I guess for the
money, your dog can be any breed that you wish him to
be. The whole situation has got to be offensive to anyone
who breeds purebreds. Nel Liquorman
This
is ridiculous!!!! I might as well stop registering my
puppies at all and just sell them without a contract to the
person with the most money~!!! I've been doing this for
over 10 years "the right way” but this is a slap in the
face … I’m getting out of breeding … because of this
kind of crap. Feel free to forward this email to AKC or
anyone else. I'm FED UP!!! Amy Loy
This is an outrage! This makes them no better than the
bogus registries out there. Lorie, Sandragon
Mastiffs
AKC registration is absolutely worthless, in my opinion.
This new rule proves that AKC is all about money and could
care less about breed integrity or animal welfare. If I were
queen for the day, I would abolish the AKC and put
certification/pedigree into the hands of the breed clubs…
Shame on the AKC! The fact that they made these changes
secretly and then refuse to speak up when challenged just
goes to show their poor character. I suppose they thought
the changes would go unnoticed. Laura Beck |