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2006 Board: The following
Executive Officers were re-elected: Dennis B. Sprung, President and Chief
Executive Officer; John Lyons, Chief Operating Officer; James P.
Crowley, Executive Secretary and James T. Stevens, Chief Financial
Officer. Chairman of the Board is Ronald Menaker.
DELEGATES QUARTERLY MEETING SEPTEMBER 2006
– partial page 5 & 6
Mr. Sprung: Thank you, Ron. The Chair calls on Jim Stevens,
Chief Financial Officer, for the financial report.
Mr. Stevens: Good morning. Overall, our financial results to
date so far this year have looked pretty good. Here’s an
overview of what our current numbers from operations look like
for the first eight months of this year compared to the same
period last year.
Total revenues were slightly above last year, while
total expenses were up a modest two and a half percent compared
to 2005. This produced an operating profit of $3.2 million,
versus $3.9 million last year. Therefore, on an operating basis,
we are 17 percent behind last year’s results. The fact that this
number is declining is something we’d like to improve upon.
Please recognize that these numbers exclude the impact of our
investments. This picture changes considerably when we include
our investments. Our portfolio has produced unrealized gains of
almost two and a half million dollars for the first eight months
of this year. This was 36 percent better than the previous year.
Consequently, our bottom line reflects a net surplus of $5.7
million, which is just marginally below last year.
Before we get into the details of our financial
results, we are pleased to report that more registrations
continue to be completed online. The percentage of litters which
are being registered online has now increased to 50 percent as
of the end of last month. This compares to 41 percent at the
same time last year.
Online dog
registrations have also increased significantly. Recently they
reached an all-time high of 20 percent, and this number is 50
percent greater than the highest level of usage last year. We
are certainly very pleased with these developments.
However, the trend with registration revenues continues
to be disappointing. The number of litter registrations for the
first eight months of this year is down one percent compared to
the previous year. As many of you may recall from the June
Delegates meeting, we reviewed with you how dog registrations
have been in a downward spiral since 1992. Unfortunately, this
trend still persists in 2006. Dog registrations for the first
eight months of this year have declined by almost six percent
from 2005, which is not good.
You might ask the question, what is AKC doing about
this? The answer is that there is no quick fix or silver bullet
to solve this problem. This is something which AKC’s management
team and Board have struggled with since 1992. What we can tell
you today is that the strategic business plan which was approved
by the Board last year has identified various registration
initiatives.
We do not expect that any of these initiatives will
have an immediate impact. In fact, it will probably take up to
five years for the combination of all these initiatives to
produce meaningful results.
One of the principle strategies of the plan is to
increase registrations by addressing the needs of all customer
groups. We are creating programs which will reach all dog
owners, breeders and fanciers. We recognize that in order to be
successful, we must reach all of these groups.
Here are some of the registration initiatives which are
currently underway.
Earlier today, Keith Frazier talked about our outreach to
veterinarians. This is one of the key audiences we need to reach
in order to positively impact AKC registrations. Programs like
Vet Net allow us to reach vets, but also offer tangible benefits
to dog owners and breeders.
During the past few months we have introduced other
incentives, including a simplified full litter registration
process for breeders and various discount coupons for litter
registrations.
Dog owners are receiving incentives such as the
previously described Vet Net program and dog.com coupons.
We also are working on some additional initiatives.
Fully communicating the benefits of AKC registration is best
done before the buyer takes their new pet home. Therefore,
AKC is embarking on a strategic relationship with Petland that
involves educating their employees about the benefits of AKC
registration and providing their customers with materials about
registering with us. As you know, AKC registered dogs have
always been sold in pet stores. This program we are designing
will encourage the store to differentiate AKC registration from
the myriad of other for-profit registries. What sets our
registry apart from others is our comprehensive inspection and
quality control programs.
Working with pet stores will widen the pool of AKC
registered dogs and provide the opportunity to improve the lives
of dogs, educate owners, and enhance their pet ownership
experience via AKC programs and services.
Another aspect of our strategic plan involves placing
ads in publications which reach a broad range of people in the
pet industry. These ads drive home a message specifically
designed for this group, that AKC registration is unique and
preferred by pet owners. These ads are intended to distinguish
AKC from the other registries and highlight our longevity, high
standards and overall value.
We will keep you updated on these new initiatives as we
continue to work on these in the future, so that we reach dog
owners in ways we never have before.
As a result, many dog owners will be introduced to the
benefits which our organization has to offer. We are confident
that the impact of these efforts will assist in reversing the
downward trend in registrations. As you know, registration
revenues are critical in providing the necessary funding for
most of AKC’s programs.
Shifting gears back to our financial results, here’s an
overview of the composition of our year-to-date operating
expenses for this year versus the previous two years. As you see
illustrated in this graph, I’m sure you will agree that
management has been very effective in controlling expenses over
the past three years. Year-to-date operating expenses for the
year are $41.4 million, and this was only two and a half percent
higher than 2005. Payroll and benefits expense, which appears as
gold on this graph, continue to represent half of our total
expenses. This expense is 4.7 percent higher than last year,
primarily due to increased headcount. The total of all other
expenses are essentially in line with last year.
At the last Delegates meeting, we also reported to you
some financial data concerning events. We noted that this area
lost approximately ten million dollars in 2005. This year there
have been 8,500 events to date, which was up 12 and a half
percent from 2005.
The total number of entries in events so far this year
has been 1.8 million, which is two and a half percent above last
year. Based on how the current year is shaping up, we would
anticipate that this year’s loss from events will be comparable
to last year. This leaves a great deal to be desired, given the
continued erosion in our registration revenues.
One good piece of news is that as previously noted, our
investments continue to turbo charge our bottom line. Again,
these investments generate a gain of two and a half million
dollars for the first eight months of the year. We have been
very fortunate that this amount has continued to increase each
year, as illustrated here. Our year-to-date return on
investments through the end of last month was 4.8 percent, which
frankly was a pretty decent return considering the roller
coaster ride in the stock market over the last few months.
Nevertheless, despite these favorable returns, we
should never take this for granted. The turbulence in the stock
market over the past few months clearly demonstrates this. As
you may recall, at our last meeting David Merriam talked about
the fact that there was a need to establish an endowment fund
reserve. The Board deemed this to be fiscally prudent in order
to solidify AKC’s financial future. We are pleased to report
that the current balance in this reserve as of the end of last
month was seven million dollars.
In conclusion, I’d like to remind you again that the
strategic planning initiatives regarding registrations don’t
offer a quick fix. We are only in the first few months of what
is anticipated to be a five-year plan. While we are pleased with
our overall 2006 financial results to date, we recognize that
there is always room for improvement. Thank you. (Applause)
Mr. Sprung: Thank you, Jim.
DELEGATES QUARTERLY MEETING SEPTEMBER 2006 – partial page 19
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Mr. Sprung: Earlier in the meeting, Jim Stevens mentioned our
Petland registration initiative. The Chair calls on John Lyons,
our Chief Operating Officer, to provide you with some more
information on this project.
Mr. Lyons: This is some more background information for you on
this initiative to hopefully clear up some of the
misunderstandings. During strategic planning, the Board looked
at registration trends in depth. The Board considered all facets
of registration. The registration portion of the Board’s
strategic plan outlines three main strategies.
The first strategy: Increase the return rate of individual dog
applications by increasing the value of registration.
The second strategy: Increase litter registration by improving
AKC’s relationship with breeders.
And the third strategy: Develop constructive dialogues with pet
shops and distributors.
Registration tactics focus on increasing registration by
addressing the needs of all customer groups. Dog owners, the
fancy, breeders and the commercial channel. This focus stems
from a belief that purebred dogs are best served by AKC, and
breeding programs are better when AKC is involved than when we
are not. An article in the June Perspectives submitted by Jim
Crowley provided details on many of the registration related
tactics we have implemented to stop the decline and reverse the
trend in dog and litter registrations. The article specifically
highlighted tactics related to the commercial sector, including:
Continued dialogue with distributors and pet retailers to
consider ways to encourage high standards and promote AKC
registration.
During the strategic planning process, the
Board considered and prioritized these tactics. The Board
receives regular communication as tactics are implemented in
addition to quarterly updates on the overall strategic plan
timeline.
The Board considered the tactic of working with pet shops and
distributors to promote AKC registration at each strategic
planning workshop from April through the final approval of the
strategic plan in October of 2005. They then prioritized this as
a high priority tactic, and instructed staff to begin
discussions. The Board reviewed the details of a potential
agreement with Petland at the April and July, 2006 meetings. At
the Board’s direction, staff moved forward to develop an
agreement with Petland.
So what does this agreement mean, and what is the purpose behind
it? The agreement establishes a means to promote AKC
registration. The purpose is simply to encourage the AKC
registration of AKC registrable dogs, that is, puppies that have
come out of AKC registered litters. Today, many of these
AKC registrable dogs are registered with other registries or not
at all. Educating Petland associates about the value and
importance of AKC registration will highlight the differences
between AKC and the for-profit listing services. As Petland
associates prepare to send a puppy home with a new owner, they
will highlight the value and importance of registration. If the
new owner decides to register, Petland will facilitate the
process by providing data necessary for registration to the AKC:
Litter registration number, color, sex, marking, microchip
number and the name and address of the new owner. In addition,
the new owner will pay for AKC registration in the store. The
new owner will complete the registration process by submitting
the name of their new puppy on line or via paper. Just to
clarify, as a result of this project, AKC is not providing
discounted registrations to pet retailers.
From this agreement, AKC benefits by being able to reach more
new dog owners. Petland sees a real value in the programs and
services AKC has to offer to dog owners: Event participation,
and programs like canine good citizen, the Canine Health
Foundation, companion animal recovery and pet insurance. These
programs are a real value to new puppy owners.
This agreement is one tactic in a suite of initiatives aimed at
increasing registrations. For breeders, we have distributed
litter registration coupons; issued litter coupons to bred-by
medallion winners; implemented the full litter registration, a
process that includes an average 28 percent discount on the
litter registration and a 20 percent discount on the dog
registration, as well as discounts on packages.
For dog owners, we have introduced dog.com certificates and
veterinary network certificates. As you know, much of 2005 was
spent on developing the strategic plan. As part of the
development process, the Delegate body received regular
briefings. In January, 2005, briefings in Tampa outlined some of
the major trends in registrations, including the growing number
of for-profit listing services. A presentation and
subsequent mailing in June 2005 detailed the goals and
strategies, including dialogue with distributors and pet
retailers. The Chairman’s final report on the strategic plan,
mailed in the fall of 2005, again summarized the goals and
strategies of the plan.
We are less than a year into our five year strategic plan, but
have already accomplished much. As we have begun implementing
the plan, we have continued to provide briefings to the Delegate
body. Jim Crowley’s article in the June Perspectives gave you a
midyear update on our progress. We will provide a year-end
update at the December Delegates meeting.
In addition, as new initiatives are launched, you will receive
announcements. Thank you.
Ms. Laurans: Mr. President?
Mr. Sprung: Yes.
Ms. Laurans: Do you wish to have questions and comments
regarding this presentation now or later?
Mr. Sprung: Under new business.
Ms. Laurans: You want to wait after that? Thank you.
M r. Sprung: We will wait for new business.
Ms. Laurans: We’ll be glad to deal with it now, while John can
give some answers, or you can -
Mr. Sprung: We’ll do it under new business.
Ms. Laurans: Okay. Thank you.
Ms. Laurans: Before I blast off, I’d like to say thank you for
acknowledging
25 years of service for all of us. And John, I’m glad you are
walking to the podium and you are a brave man. The indication
was given that we were going to help Petland with communication
and education. The original question as to whether we had an
agreement with Petland was asked by someone in the audience at
the Parent Club Committee. Unfortunately, John was not present.
We were told that we would be given a presentation and I am
appreciative of the presentation. One of the questions that I
asked was: Is Petland going to be registering the AKC dogs that
they sell there? And John, I believe you told me no.
Mr. Lyons: That’s true. There is going to be an exchange of data
that will allow us to issue the registration.
Ms. Laurans: And how will that data be exchanged? In the same
way online registrations are done?
Mr. Lyons: Basically, yes.
Ms. Laurans: Yes, okay. So that’s semantics. I would like to
call attention to every single Parent clubs’ that I know of code
of ethics that says we will not sell to pet stores. I would like
to call attention to the fact that, from my humble belief, we
are selling our birthright for a few shekels. I would like to
call attention that this is a club of clubs and that we are your
constituency. We are the groups that are asked to help out with
medallions, to work at shows, to educate the public, to make our
clubs and our events more friendly so we can help increase
registration on a volunteer basis. I would like to make note of
the fact, and pardon me, I feel we are prostituting some of our
values, I feel we are going against what I believe most of the
members and member clubs would want to see happen, and I feel
that we should have at least had some sort of way to give you
our thoughts before contracts were signed, sealed and delivered.
You said, and I supported the fact, that we don’t want to let
the enemy in. I question the fact right now if the enemy is
already here. Thank you.
Ms. Laurans: Can we get back to have comments on what I was just
talking about and that was getting distracted, so we can keep
things in context?
And if people have other things that they would like to talk
about, would you back off and let us talk about this Petland
agreement first.
Mr. Lyons: I just want to respond. I appreciate how you feel. My
thought on that is that these puppies are going to be sold
through pet shops anyway. We are not stopping that. The only
difference now is they are not registered with us and we don’t
have — by not being inclusive with them, we don’t have an
opportunity to positively influence their behavior regarding
conditions and so forth.
Ms. Laurans: John, education, communication materials, that’s
wonderful.
The day that we start seeing them being registered online from
the pet shop, where the AKC banners are up in the pet shops, to
me that is the Good Housekeeping’s Seal of Approval in a pet
shop, and that goes against everything
I have ever known or been taught by the American Kennel Club.
Mr. Gladstone: With all respect, Pat, we have been taking their
money for 75 years and cashing their checks.
Mr. Sprung: One person at a time will be recognized.
The Chair recognized Judy Hart, Delegate from Pembroke Welsh
Corgi Club of America, who spoke as follows: The good news is
when I’m angry, I tend not to become articulate like Pat does
but think in sound bites; so that might lead you to think I will
be a very short with this. The bad news is, my flight doesn’t
leave until seven p.m. I have spent over 35 years involved with
purebred dogs and this Sport - 100 percent with the American
Kennel Club. And don’t think that I’m upset and my voice is
shaking because I’m sad or not used to public speaking or
something. I am truly angry. Today I have stopped being a
lifelong, dyed-in-the-wool, nobody-else supporter of the
American Kennel Club, and when I get home and start getting
calls from the constituents in my club, I am going to become an
apologist for the American Kennel Club. And that upsets me very,
very badly. I am not so naive that I think that Petland is a
charitable organization. I may be wrong, but I don’t believe
they’re a charitable organization. I would like to know in this
contract that apparently we have already signed — we have been
told what’s in it for the AKC; what’s in it for Petland? The AKC
stamp of approval on puppies sold through pet shops? Could we
have a little expansion on what was in the contract that makes
this so desirable to Petland that they will train all of their
employees and do all of this accepting of registration and do
all of these wonderful things for these AKC puppies? What’s in
it for Petland?
Mr. Sprung: David Merriam is going to address that question.
Mr. Merriam: I will respond to both your comments and Pat’s
comments.
In 1981, 96 percent of the income of AKC was registration money.
That money did not come only from the Fanciers or the Sport.
That money came from all the dogs registered with AKC, which
means it was the backyard breeders, and it was the commercial
breeders. In 1981, when we were living off of that money
to fund our Sport, we did not feel we were prostitutes to the
commercial breeders. If we want to live in the real world, and
we have learned it since the institution of the FUS and the
departure of large parts of the commercial breeders; if we want
to live in that world, then we have to understand that if we
want AKC dogs registered, we have to address that segment.
Now, I’m with you in terms of saying I don’t particularly like
the commercial breeding of dogs. It’s not the way I raised dogs.
It’s not the way I sold my dogs. If I were to apply my own
personal standards to the American Kennel Club, as to what dogs
we would register, we would probably reduce our registry to
three or four-hundred thousand dogs at most. We would then
radically change the way AKC operates. We can reduce the
services. We can reduce all of the things that AKC does in an
expansive way for what we believe is in the best interests of
the Sport of purebred dogs, and we can place upon the
participants of our Sport the entire costs of our Sport. That
would be an alternative. We would retract in size and in
influence. We would truly be elitist. But we’d be elitists who
were supporting ourselves. But let me tell you that the cost of
that would be very substantial. And if we had an up-down vote on
that and if you wanted to say we are willing to pay $75 entry
fees, we’re willing to assess $5,000 or $10,000 a year
membership dues on member clubs, we could do that, and we could
do it all within ourselves. But I suggest to you that that is
not the direction that most of the Delegates wish to go and most
of our clubs wish to go.
As to the question as to what’s in the contract? I’m not privy
to the contract.
I’m not.
Ms. Laurans: May we hear from someone who is?
Mr. Merriam: I will only tell you that just as the contract with
Eukanuba for the production of the show was confidential, this
contract is confidential. I know many of you would like to have
the entire inner workings of the business operations of AKC laid
out to this group. In the business world of today that’s not
possible. All we can tell you is that from AKC’s standpoint,
they are given no breaks. These people, the pet shops, the
commercial breeders of 20 years ago, could do exactly the same
thing that Petland is doing today. They can sell AKC puppies,
they can advertise that these are AKC puppies, and they can
assist, in any way they wish for the sale and registration of
AKC puppies. And they used to do that. What has changed is that
we have competitors, and these competitors now are in the pet
stores. They’re in the commercial channels. And they say, “Okay,
it costs $15 to register a puppy, XYZ Registry will do it for
$12, and we’ll kickback three dollars to the pet shop.” That’s
the competition we’re in. And don’t believe that it hasn’t had
an effect on our registration. Every meeting, Jim Stevens
relates the decline of our registration. If we are going to
address this in a serious, honest and a realistic way, we have
got to address that segment of the registration. That is the
commercial. And that’s simply the answer. If you want to tell
the Board and your fellow clubs that we are willing to go
inward, support ourselves, pay the price, then that’s a
direction you can go, but I think if we go that direction, the
American Kennel Club will not exist 100 years from today.
Mr. Sprung: Thank you, David.
The Chair recognized Ruth Ann Naun, Delegate for the Border
Terrier Club of America, who spoke as follows: The longer I
stand here, the more I think I’ll probably add too many things
in and get the whole issue confused. I don’t want to do that.
First of all, I have to say that when I started 25 years ago, it
was Dr. Ruth Ann Naun, and it is still Dr. Ruth Ann Naun; but
it’s got nothing to do with dogs, so I don’t use that and I’m
not a physician, so I can’t help you in the room. But truthfully
I was at the Parent Club Committee meeting yesterday. I try to
read most of the things that are mailed to us. And what I
thought we were going to hear about Petland was that there was
going to be a product endorsement exchange between the products
that the American Kennel Club now wishes to market with labeling
and the AKC. And in John Lyon’s response to us here today, I
felt largely that we were being told — very nicely, John — that
we knew about this, that we have been updated about this. And
truthfully I don’t think so. But I also feel that we’re, as
Delegates and as members of a club of clubs, we had today a
Nominating Committee named who are accepting open nominations to
the AKC Board until the end of October. And I think probably
just as the Field Trial Board’s recommendations, when they
recommend something, come through this group, with almost
unanimous acceptance all the time — granted we don’t know, most
of us, a lot about field trials, but we also, most of us, have a
lot of confidence in the Field Trial Advisory Board that what
they’re doing for the Sport of field trials; and that they have
the best interests of that Sport in their mind when they are
doing it.
Now, I know that the AKC is an organization with a bottom line,
and issues that have to be considered in terms of the bottom
line. I do not accept, although, Lord, I’m not a person to be on
the AKC Board, so what am I doing here standing here spouting
off? It’s a lot of work, it takes a lot of skill. And you have
to have a choice of decision about where you want the AKC to go
if you are going to be on the Board. I think the Board must know
that there are an awful lot of member clubs that do not see this
direction as what we would wish us to explore as ways in which
we can go forward in this century to maintain a place for
purebred dogs where you don’t have to be apologetic about the
product that you are helping families to have in their homes.
And there’s got to be a better way than marketing through places
that take dogs that come from what we now call high volume
breeders. Thank you for your time.
Mr. Gladstone: In 1993 the AKC adopted care and condition
policies for those high volume breeders, what we called puppy
mills then. When we did that, we demanded that those high volume
breeders meet our standards for the care and conditions that
they gave to the dogs in their kennels. Last year we had 4500
inspections of those breeders. What we have got to understand is
that there is a different marketplace today than there was in
1993. When we accept those AKC breeders’ dollars for their
registrations, and when they have complied with our care and
condition requirements, they are indeed putting into the
marketplace an AKC dog, that is a different dog than a dog being
put into the marketplace by someone who has either refused to
meet our standards or has abandoned the AKC to a competitor. No
one suggests that the members or the Parent clubs should change
their code of ethics or argue that they should be selling dogs
differently. The American Kennel Club, however, has survived and
subsidized our activities on the income from commercially bred
dogs since the 1950s. To suggest that those breeders who meet
our standards, who suffered through our
inspections or tolerate our inspections or are pleased for our
inspections, they
are delivering a better product, that dog, that puppy, than
those breeders who have failed our inspections, abandoned our
registry, and refused to deal with us.
It’s not a message that I want to deliver to you. I know it’s
not a message that you want to hear. But the fact is if you call
high volume breeders that meet AKC standards “high volume
breeders,” and you call every other commercial breeder who
refuses or can’t meet AKC standards “puppy mills,” we have got
to accept the fact, we are taking their money; and, yes, Judy,
we are endorsing them with our papers. We are telling the world
these people meet AKC standards. Now, you may not like that, but
the fact is that we have lived off of that for the last 60
years.
Ms. Laurans: Steve —
Mr. Sprung: Excuse me. Delegate, please wait. You have spoken on
this. Let him finish and then I have to call on the others who
haven’t spoken on this topic.
Ms. Laurans: Okay. Then I want to go back and ask Steve about
the number of inspections -
Mr. Sprung: You can. You will able to.
Mr. Gladstone: I will let Tom Sharp give you the actual numbers
of inspections. My understanding is approximately 4,500.
Ms. Laurans: Of every dog –
Mr. Gladstone: We don’t inspect every dog any more than the IRS
audits every return.
Mr. Sprung: Thank you, Delegate. Please be courteous to each
speaker.
The Chair recognized Howard Falberg, Delegate for the Golden
Retriever Club of America, who spoke as follows: I understand
why this approach is being explored. I have a question and then
a comment. First off: I live in areas where there’s Petco, where
there is Pet Smart, and the emphasis there is on food and,
assorted products. I don’t live where they have, what do they
call it? Petland? Is that primarily a smaller operation that is
filled with puppies that they sell? So that’s my first question.
Mr. Sprung: Let’s answer that question first.
Mr. Lyons: Howard, basically they sell everything that you will
see in Pet Smart, but in addition they sell puppies. There are
120 of them nationwide.
Mr. Falberg: Okay. I have some major concerns with this
approach. First of all, I was very impressed with Robin
Stansell’s presentation, because it consisted of positive things
that we are trying to do to improve participation in our Sport.
And I don’t think anybody here argued with and certainly
approved of what Robin and his group are trying to do. This is a
horse or a dog of a different color. Because what we are really
dealing with here is: We are getting away from the approach that
this organization has had for over 100 years, where we support
the breeding of purebred dogs by responsible breeders. I mean
the day and age of kennels where people had literally a hundred
or more dogs, it’s over with. It’s a private practice. I was
very interested in our treasurer’s report because it was not a
bad report. And combined with what Robin was talking about,
hopefully it’s going to improve, you know, the kind of
registrations that we get. I am scared stiff that that what we
are doing now with this proposal reminds me of the Biblical
phrase about selling your birthright for a bowl full of rotten
porridge. And I don’t think that we should be doing that. And
that being the case, I would make a motion that the Delegate
body requests that the AKC rescind all possibilities of a
contract involving the registration of dogs through the Petland
organization.
A Delegate: I’ll second the motion.
Mr. Sprung: The motion is under the authority of the Board.
Therefore, what you suggest should be a recommendation to the
Board of Directors.
A Delegate: Will you consider a straw vote on that
recommendation?
Mr. Holder: What I think he meant was to make a motion to
recommend to the Board to rescind the contract with Petland. Is
that correct?
Mr. Falberg: Yes.
Mr. Sprung: We will open a discussion on a non-binding standing
straw ballot. Is there discussion on it?
A Delegate: I Call the question.
Mr. Sprung: Is there a second on that?
A Delegate: Yes.
Mr. Sprung: Any discussion? We are going to vote on calling the
question. Jim, could you read back so everybody is clear.
Mr. Crowley: Yes, there was a motion that the Delegate body to
make a recommendation to the Board that the Petland contract be
rescinded. The question was called. Now the vote is whether or
not to call the question and vote on the main motion.
Mr. Sprung: This requires a two thirds majority. All those in
favor please raise your hand. Hands down, thank you. All those
opposed, please raise your hand. Thank you. The discussion is
over. We are now going to vote on the question.
Mr. Crowley: The vote is on a Delegate recommendation to the
Board that they consider rescinding the Petland contract. So we
are voting on that motion, which is a recommendation to the
Board.
Mrs. Daniels: Point of order. Question, please. I believe the
motion was not to consider rescinding. The motion was to
rescind. The Board could consider rescinding and say we
considered it with no action.
Mr. Sprung: Let’s repeat the wording so everybody is clear.
Mr. Crowley: It is a recommendation to the Board that they
rescind the Petland contract, which is a non-binding
recommendation to the Board.
Mr. Sprung: All those in favor, please raise your hand. Hands
down, thank you.
All those opposed, please raise your hand. Hands down, thank
you. The motion passes.
The Chair recognized Karen Arends, Delegate for the Portuguese
Water Dog Club of America, who spoke as follows: There have been
some nice attempts to kind of sidetrack this, but people don’t
seem to be sidetracked. In Texas, we are very lucky to have very
few pet stores that sell dogs and cats. Petland is one of the
few. And I’ve been to their openings and saw very, very docile
animals that it’s not possible they are like this normally with
everybody that’s there poking them. And these dogs, I don’t know
how many they lose. I heard 20 percent before they get there.
And then people that don’t know how to care for them and then go
to quite often any home, quite often inappropriate. And so we
have lost a lot of the dogs. How many of them that you have all
seen in pet stores would you swear are purebred dogs? You know
this is kind of iffy. And these came from breeders who obviously
don’t care where they’re placed. They don’t have to follow up.
Why do they care if they’re purebred dogs? They are getting the
same money by saying they are. And if they aren’t interested
enough to back them up, what makes us think they’re interested
enough to be honest with us? These same dogs are then taken care
of by people that know nothing about the breeds, individual
placements. Then we have all seen them with health problems in
our rescue programs, and then you have the nice family that came
to buy a fish, that when they get tired of it they salute and
flush. These same people may see this darling puppy and buy it
that day. What are the chances of that dog having a happy long
life with this family? And so these other people said they are
planning to be apologetic. I think that AKC should be ashamed.
This is beyond awful. And most of the things, as others have
said, I’ve been able to back, but I can’t even pretend with this
one. And I think the Board should look really hard and strong
and maybe if this isn’t the way the real world is, we should go
in another direction. Thank you. Also, are these dogs all placed
on limited registrations or are they put out on full
registrations?
The Chair recognized Sylvia Meisels, Delegate for the Lakeland
Winter Haven Kennel Club, who spoke as follows: Yes, I would
like to address the subject of the agreement with Petland again,
please. Frankly, I find it offensive personally, as I’m sure
many of you do, who are breeders and have been registering dogs
all your life with the AKC. I always thought of this as a —
sorry, if you don’t like the elitist idea; but an elitist
registry, something to be especially proud of. And now having
puppies coming out of pet shops in this manner, what do I have
left to convince me AKC registration means anything more to me
than any other registry? Why shouldn’t I go over to another
registry?
Mr. Sprung: You say “now,” we have been doing it for many, many
years?
Mrs. Meisels: But you haven’t been doing this through pet shops
like this, having them send the registrations in.
Mr. Sprung: Correct, the blue slips were given to the customer.
Mrs. Meisels: I have spent 25 years of my life having purebred
dogs registered with the AKC. I have special dogs that have come
from the bred-by class very successfully. I think I have done
the utmost I can to prove that I have good dogs, AKC dogs, that
I thought meant something. Now I would like to ask something: Is
it possible that you could consider your contract with them
requiring them to have limited registrations only on those
puppies that are sold that way?
Mr. Sprung: It’s certainly possible to bring that topic up.
Mrs. Meisels: Could you consider that, please?
Mr. Sprung: We will consider all suggestions seriously.
Absolutely.
Mrs. Meisels: I would like to make the recommendation to the
Board that they please consider putting limited registration on
all those puppies sold that way.
A Delegate: Is that a motion?
Ms. Meisels: That is a motion.
Mr. Sprung: We can’t answer for all other people. In other
words, the pet buying public will make that final decision.
Ms. Meisels: But the breeder makes that decision when their
papers go out.
Mr. Sprung: That’s not what I meant. What I said is the person
who is going to purchase a puppy, whether it’s from a breeder or
from a pet store, or anywhere else, that’s the person who makes
the final decision.
Mrs. Meisels: No.
Mr. Sprung: That’s the person who makes the final decision
whether or not they will purchase that puppy.
Mrs. Meisels: Whether they purchase that puppy or not is not the
issue. The issue is: Can they get a full registration on a puppy
in that manner?
Mr. Sprung: That’s the choice of the breeder.
Mr. Merriam: It’s not the store.
Mrs. Meisels: In this case, there is no breeder. It is Petland
that is transferring the dog.
Mr. Sprung: No, that’s not the case. There is a breeder of every
litter. Petland is not a breeder of puppies.
Mrs. Meisels: Is it not true that when the dog transfers hands,
the ownership goes over to the person whose hands it comes to?
Petland owns those dogs at the time it sold to the public.
Mr. Sprung: It is only the breeder who can choose whether a
registration is limited or not. And it is only the breeder that
can lift that requirement.
Mrs. Meisels: Well, perhaps that rule should be changed, sir?
Mr. Sprung: Perhaps. That’s up to the Delegate body. But then
what you are suggesting is: Every owner of a dog, once it is
transferred, could place a dog on limited or lift a limited
registration?
Mrs. Meisels: Exactly.
Mr. Sprung: So when I sell a special to somebody because I’m no
longer going to exhibit it, that dog could become limited. Is
that what you are suggesting?
Mrs. Meisels: Yes, sir, I’m suggesting that Petland sell only
limited dogs.
Mr. Sprung: To be clear, you are suggesting we take the right of
placing limited away from the breeder, and give it to anybody
who owns a dog and is transferring a dog?
Mrs. Meisels: I’m suggesting, since you won’t show us the
contract and agreement with these people in the first place —
Mr. Sprung: That’s true.
Mrs. Meisels: And in the second place, you have demeaned the
dogs that we sell by selling them this way through the pet shop
and registering with AKC, all of them are going to be registered
so that they could be bred and placed in more puppy mills and in
more pet shops. What is to happen to the purebred dog?
Mr. Sprung: These dogs — let’s take it one step back, if we may.
These dogs are AKC registrable.
Mrs. Meisels: Absolutely.
Mr. Sprung: So the question is: Should there be a mechanism for
them to be registered as AKC puppies, or would we prefer that
those AKC puppies are registered elsewhere?
Mrs. Meisels: That was not my question.
Mr. Sprung: But those are the facts of the matter. They will
either not be registered with anybody, or registered elsewhere
and possibly bred. AKC will not register a litter with AKC
limited registration. However, all 23 of our competitors will
register those litters. We do not have the ability to stop the
registering of litters from limited dogs and bitches, except in
our own domain.
Mrs. Meisels: Yes. But I suggest that perhaps then if you can’t
have the Petland put limited registration on them, have Petland
acquire the puppies from people who only sell them to them as
limited registration.
Mr. Sprung: That’s a possibility as well.
Mrs. Meisles: I mean, obviously this is large commercial
breeders they are buying them from, and if they require that the
large commercial breeders send only limited puppies to them,
then that’s all they can sell.
Mr. Sprung: That would be correct.
Mrs. Meisels: There is a way around it.
Mr. Sprung: That’s a possibility.
Mrs. Meisels: Anyway, can we get a motion to the effect that I’d
like the Board to consider this, please?
Mr. Sprung: Absolutely.
Mrs. Meisels: I make such a motion, please, that the Board
consider having Petland buy only from breeders who will put
limited registration on their puppies.
Mr. Sprung: Is there a second? There is no second.
Mrs. Meisels: Thank you for your time.
Mr. Sprung: Thank you.
Mrs. Daniels: Thank you, Mr. President. Perception is reality.
How many times have we all heard that? And there have been times
when decisions have been made sometimes in the Delegate body,
sometimes by staff, sometimes by Board, where we come away
thinking we have got some egg on our face. I think right now we
all feel like we have just been hit with a 12 - egg omelet. And
what I would like to say is a very brief analogy, if you will,
to what has happened today. Before lunch, we passed a Bylaws
amendment that allow us protection from legal lawsuits when we
keep the enemy out of the body. And I can agree with that reason
for that Bylaws amendment. Then after dessert, we find out with
a spokesperson from the podium that because we have competitors
and because we need more money, and believe me, I understand the
need for ancillary lines of income — we were researching them
tremendously when I was on staff and we started one of the big
ones then. But now because we need the money, we have been told
we are going to go to bed with the pet shops, with the enemies,
and to me that is indeed prostituting our ethic.
Mr. Sprung: Thank you.
The chair recognized Betty Jo Patrick, Delegate for the
Schipperke Club of America, who spoke as follows: Earlier today
we reviewed and voted on, actually discussed the Article VI,
Section 5, of the AKC Bylaws on Delegate Eligibility. And I’m
going to read quickly. It says, “No person is eligible to become
or remain a Delegate if he or she, Section B, is engaged in
trade or traffic in dogs which is engaged in — which includes
commercial breeders or brokers of dogs for resale.”
Now, I have a real problem with one rule for us and another rule
for you. And I don’t mean to be rude, but I do the rescue for
the State of Arizona. And I am the one that gets the dogs and I
am the one that tries to find the homes and I am the one that
pays for the MPS 3B tests at 80 bucks apiece. And I’m going to
say: Petland is not going to take them back when they don’t work
out. They come to me. And they’re a mess. And I am angry; very,
very, very angry.
The Chair recognized Kathrynanne Sarvinas, Delegate from the Dog
Owner’s Training Club of Maryland, who spoke as follows: I can
understand your reasoning behind getting these puppies
registered. However, as someone has been thrown out of Doctor’s
Pet Shops more times than I care to count for questioning the
Parentage of a Boxer puppy that I happen to see there that looks
more like a Beagle, is there any way that we can ensure that the
dogs that they are registering are, in fact, what they are
supposed to be?
Mr. Sprung: They are part of the inspection process. The
inspectors are there. They do DNA tests, they check the papers,
etc., as they do in the kennels that these puppies came from.
Ms. Goldberg: I’m sure I speak for much of the Delegate body in
that we sympathize and recognize that the AKC has to find
alternate sources of revenue. What you are hearing here is that
this is obviously not the one we would choose. I’m throwing this
out without previous thought. It occurred to me when Howard
Falberg was talking about the Pet Smarts and the Petcos across
the nation, those pets supply facilities that do not sell
puppies; could the staff not develop some sort of a program,
similar to ILP, with paperwork that could be handed out to every
person buying a bag of dog food, inviting them to register their
dog is some ILP-like registry that’s part of AKC, and telling
them what fun it would be to compete in the various events that
we offer and giving them a reduced fee and some sort of
incentive that would be inclusive. Perhaps it would inspire them
to make their next dog a purebred dog. It would not be
supporting the puppy mills or high volume breeders, call them
what you will; but it would be including more people, showing
them the advantages of registration, show them the joys of being
part of this fancy, and perhaps encouraging them to buy from a
reputable breeder next time around?
Mr. Sprung: Thank you for your suggestion, I will advise you
that such research is already underway.
The Chair recognized Margarette Wampold, Delegate for the South
Windsor Kennel Club, who spoke as follows: My kennel club does
public education, big events almost every month. Wherever we go,
we take signs that say “Buy a purebred dog from a reputable
breeder.” We had an incident a few weeks ago when we did Dog
Days in the Park in South Windsor. This lovely lady came by with
her dog, and she wanted one just like it, to breed to. And she
informed me it was a Siberian Husky. I thought it was a
Malamute; and she told me no, she bought it at a pet store and
she had AKC papers. We happened to have a licensed judge that
judges the whole working group, and I said “Ed, come over and
tell me what this is?” And he looked at me like I was an idiot,
not recognizing a Malamute and he said, “Peggy, that’s a
Malamute.” Well, that woman has AKC papers saying she has a
Siberian Husky. So they are not supervising what they’re buying
and she believes she has a Siberian Husky with AKC papers. So
I’m opposed to anything where AKC is giving papers to dogs in
puppy stores or whatever you want to call it, commercial
breeders, because we have worked through the years trying to
promote buying a purebred dog from a reputable breeder, and if
they have an AKC dog, then they know what they’ve got. Thank
you.
Mr. Sprung: Thank you.
The Chair recognized John McNabney, Delegate for the Scottish
Terrier Club of America, who spoke as follows: As some of you
know, I have a habit of speaking before I think, so I found
myself in a situation on an e-mail list defending breeders and
defending the AKC against some people who were very active in
rescue and were blaming the AKC and breeders for all their
problems. And the subject turned to puppy mills and whether or
not puppy mills were approved to sell AKC puppies. And I brought
up the fact that there was a Care and Standards Commission that
the AKC enforced on all commercial breeding operations. And they
came back and said yes, that may be; but there are many breeding
operations out there that are selling AKC puppies that don’t
come anywhere near meeting any kind of reasonable care and
conditions standards. I said, if you would tell me the names and
the addresses of these locations, I would refer them to the AKC
and see to it that the issue is addressed.
Mr. Sprung: Please give it to us.
Mr. McNabney: I need to know who to send those to.
Mr. Sprung: Send it to Tom Sharp. He will talk to you right
after the meeting.
Please send it to us.
Mr. McNabney: Very good. Thank you very much.
Mr. Sprung: Thank you.
Mr. Brisbin: I guess I am resigned that my breed and other breed
gene pools have taken a hit here, and there is not much I can do
about it at this point; that the dogs that we are breeding and
putting out there are going to be diluted in a population sense
by now more genes from high volume breeders, and apparently
there is not much we can do about that. What I would like to
know is: Is there a chance, and I think some of the people who
put this contract in may now be wishing that there was a way to
minimize this. And let me suggest, and I don’t think it would
bother Petland, that every puppy that gets registered through
this program with Petland get sent an invitation to spay and
neuter and to maybe even rebate something to them if they will
spay and neuter so that their dogs won’t be out there competing
with ours. And the final issue in my mind is: Can you at least
tell us how long this contract is valid for? Is there an
expiration date on it?
Mr. Sprung: Yes, there’s an expiration date. Every contract has
a termination clause, so our attorneys have us prepared for any
eventuality.
Mr. Brisbin: But you can’t tell us now how long the contract is?
Mr. Sprung: I don’t have the contract in front of me.
Mr. Brisbin: Thank you.
Mr. Sprung: All AKC contracts, as I said, have a termination
clause.
The Chair recognized Gretchen Bernardi, Delegate for the
Mississippi Valley Kennel Club, who spoke as follows: I regret
that we voted to suggest to rescind a contract that we knew
nothing about. But our passions were so high and our feelings
were so high we did that, and now we still don’t know anything
about this contract. And I still hope that some time in the
future we can learn exactly what Petland is getting out of this
deal. Because there are a lot of concerns for it, and I worry
about: We do require chain of ownership, a paper trail that
follows our dogs. And, you know, at one point we quickly got rid
of the idea of allowing Doctor Pet stores to print our
supplementary transfers, and I fear that we’re going back in
that same direction, and I hope that’s not the case. But I
wanted to speak to you about something else.
Mr. Sprung: First of all, if I may interrupt. The passion is
appreciated.
Ms. Bernardi: Good. Earlier in the day in the financial
statement we talked about the ten million dollar deficit in
event expenses. And I feel like we breeders and exhibitors and
judges have taken a hit, because it’s as though we drain the
American Kennel Club, instead of contributing to it. And I’d
like to remind you that a few weeks ago, six, seven weeks ago a
French bulldog was sold at auction, where else, in Missouri, for
$12,500, a male French Bulldog. Now, you have to know that no —
I think it went to a commercial breeder in Oklahoma or Kansas,
I’m not positive. But the point I’d like to make is: We never
saw — I know a little bit about the commercial breeding in
Missouri, and we never saw French Bulldogs in the commercial
establishments until they started to win groups. So we
contribute every day when we go to a dog show and take our good
dogs and exhibit them and win with them on television. We
contribute to the profit of those dogs. And so I don’t think we
should always feel like we’re the drain on the American Kennel
Club.
Mr. Sprung: Gretchen, we’re not trying to make the point that
that ten million dollar loss or cost or however one wishes to
define it — is negative, from a fault point of view. We are
simply trying to inform the Delegate body that this is the
financial story addressing events across the board. Not saying:
This is the financial story, the cost of doing business is minus
ten million dollars and it’s someone’s fault. That is not the
intention. The intention is strictly to make sure the Delegate
body is aware of the cost of holding those events. And certainly
not to say we shouldn’t be holding those events or there is
anything wrong with holding them. That’s part of our core
constituency, and that matters. But we feel an obligation to
give you the entire financial picture.
Ms. Bernardi: I appreciate that.
Ms. Laurans: Okay. I’ve been accused of stirring things up. But
I think we need to remember: We are all still part of something
we love. And what we love is the American Kennel Club. I’ve had
people come up to me and say, can we do a no confidence vote,
can we do this. I still have confidence in this Board of
Directors. What I have concern with is maybe they don’t really
understand where we are coming from. There may be, whether it be
the Internal Consulting Group or the people that put the
strategic plan together, what our bottom line, gut level is
with, as the little old lady who is eating the hamburger said,
“I’m sick and tired of this and I don’t want to take it any
more.” But it doesn’t mean that we don’t still need to work
together for an organization and a Sport that we care about. But
I think we have expressed a bottom line here, and I hope that
there will be some interest to listen to it. And I know you may
not be able to rescind it now, or you may. I don’t know. But
this is just a gut level thing of something that happened that
is untenable for some of us that we didn’t know was coming down,
and probably you didn’t know how intensely or passionately we
felt about it. So I think it’s time for us to work together to
get that point. Whether it means that there is some people who
feel that way, who have input to internal consulting, or to you,
or that you come to us a bit more, I think it needs to happen.
And I would also like to see more money, if we are going to be
doing this, given to our Inspections Department and that it
targeted to the pet stores.
Mr. Lyons: Pat, I really appreciate your comments. But I do take
exception to one thing, as I have in our personal discussions.
The ICG, the Internal Consulting Group and the staff and the
management of this organization work at the direction of the
Board. They do not work independently.
Ms. Laurans: John, we understand that totally; and that was why
when the question came up at the Parent Club meeting, the
individual from the audience asked that the question be asked at
the Board. We do understand totally that the staff works very
hard, that we have a wonderful caring and committed staff. They
work at the behest of the Board and I think the Board tries to
do what they feel is in the best interests of us and our Sport.
But we have gotten a little off track.
Mr. Sprung: Thank you.
Ms. Parker: Several of our members have come from the UKC
through the miscellaneous class, the Nova Scotia Duck Tolling
Retriever, the Toy Fox Terrier. They were very concerned about
the ability of judges to cross judge, and they would
respectfully request that you reconsider that position and allow
judges to participate in both UKC and AKC events. They feel it
will enhance both and not detract from either. The thing that I
will be very concerned about bringing back to my membership: I’m
going to have to take a big gulp when I tell them that their AKC
registration for their dogs, that they breed in their homes and
try so hard to sell to people as quality puppies is going to
have no more meaning now than what they get at Pet Smart.
Mr. Menaker: You know, I’m emotional, too. And I know Pat’s
emotional as is Judi. We hear you and we will address the issues
you raise and come back with a solution. Your Board does have
responsibilities and one of those is fiduciary responsibilities,
but let’s not walk out of here tonight suggesting that this
staff or anybody else has come up with something that we haven’t
been doing for the past 122 years. Indeed we have been
registering AKC eligible puppies from Petland, and every other
company selling AKC registrable puppies. We have been
registering those puppies and we have collected millions of
dollars.
This is not a new phenomenon. What is happening is: As the
registrations are going down, and many of you are screaming
about why this is, our registrations have been pirated by other
organizations. That means, and I’ve explained this to Gretchen
this morning, that these pet shops take an AKC registrable puppy
and convert it to another registry. We need to decide whether we
are going to stop registering puppies that come from these puppy
brokers or Pet Shops and the like. I say “stop,” because, yes,
Gretchen, we have been registering puppies from pet shops.
That’s not new. While I certainly don’t endorse brokers or pet
shops selling puppies, it is a fact of life and the numbers
continue to grow. What I’m saying is there are several options.
One is to make a conscious decision to no longer register “all”
AKC puppies. By the way, some of them make their way to pet
shops from all types of Breeders. That’s one alternative. To
tell you the truth, Judi, I would almost prefer to raise the
registrations and the event fees and be able to say, “Effective
next month, we are no longer going to register those puppies.”
However, not only would we lose those registrations, but we
would lose a large number of potential constituents and that
would impact our ability to influence legislation and over time,
our numbers might simply make us just one of 23 registries. So
that’s Option Number 1.
Option number 2 is we continue to register any AKC puppy — as we
have been doing in the past. And please don’t make it sound like
we haven’t, because the data shows we have been doing so on a
large scale. However, in this option, we make no attempt to stop
the pirating of those AKC registrable puppies and we allow our
registry and registration dollars to simply decline.
The third option was the option that the staff was trying to
present — and blame the Board; don’t blame the staff. I
understand you can un-elect us. But believe me; we put our heart
and soul into this sport as much as I believe you all do.
Our intention was not to support or to endorse Pet Shops, but
rather to stop the conversion of our AKC puppies. The fact of
the matter is that pet shop AKC puppies were being registered
when Judi Daniels was a director and when she was president,
right, Judi? We have always been registering those puppies. Now
they are getting pirated and they are ending up in other
registries and they are no longer part of our AKC. The people
who own them may never have an opportunity to be part of the AKC
family. If bred, they are no longer part of our care and
conditions. What we have learned is that competing registries
are paying bounties to convert AKC registration papers to ACA
papers or the like. And all we simply did, with this
recommendation from the staff, and which the Board approved 12
to 1, was to attempt to prevent this trend from continuing. You
have communicated to this Board today that you do not want us to
pursue this route. Indeed, we will come up with other ways to
pursue revenue shortfalls. One way is to raise fees in order
that we make up for the shortfall that occurs when registrations
decline. There’s no simplistic answer. We are all emotional. But
the fact of the matter is there are many components to this
whole issue, and there needs to be a way of dealing with it. One
lady asks if they are all limited registrations? Well, the
question you have to ask yourself is, did the breeders make them
limited registrations? As far as I’m concerned, they ought to
all be limited registrations. So the real question is: As the
registrations continue to decline and as AKC puppies are
converted to other registries, we have to make a decision as to
whether or not we want to try to go after them, or whether or
not we want to try to turn away from them and look for other
sources of revenue. That’s what it boils down to. This
initiative was not to endorse or support those people or the
conditions that most of us are opposed to. It was never done for
that purpose. It was taken because in the past we were
registering those puppies, and they accounted for a large number
of our registration numbers. In any event, I can assure you the
Board has received your message. We will reconvene on that
subject and you will hear back from us. I assure you, it was not
a decision taken lightly, nor was there any intent to do harm to
the ethics and values that most of us believe in. Thank you.
The Chair recognized Carl Holder, Delegate for the Beaumont
Kennel Club, who spoke as follows: Do we still have a quorum
present?
Mr. Sprung: I would say we do. Barely.
Mr. Holder: I move to adjourn.
Mr. Sprung: Is there a second?
A Delegate: Second.
Mr. Sprung: This is a majority vote. We are going to ask you to
please stand. All those wishing to adjourn, please stand. Thank
you. All those opposed? The ayes have it. The meeting is
adjourned.
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