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Your dog defeats three dogs but the points disappear… How can that happen? Bet you can’t guess.


COLD, WIND, and RAIN at dog show!Ok, let’s set the stage! New Mexico's high country.  Alamagordo Shows. October 2008.

 

Cold, windy, rain. Outside show. 9:30 AM judging for Toy Fox Terriers, judge Mr. David M. Krough. Entry: 1,3,1,0. Third day of a four show circuit.


Open dog is awarded 1st and Winners, no points. Now you’re most likely thinking to yourself “That’s a no brainer” but read on, here’s the puzzle.


Puppy Bitch 6-9, Puppy Bitch 9-12, and Open Bitch. All are awarded 1st in class, ribbons handed out. All of the bitches are multiple pointed, one is major pointed. The 6-9 puppy moved well, however did not have her tail up, AKC Judge Mr. David M. Krough at Dog Show nor did the open bitch, both affected by the cold wind and rain. The 9-12 puppy had her tail up but didn’t like the wet grass and didn’t move well.


Winner’s Class. Mr. Krough said he was withholding Winners due to the fact that he did not see any good movement nor did they have good tail carriage.


No Winners Bitch, therefore, no points. No Best of Winners, therefore no possible points for Winners Dog on that day although he had been going BW at those shows.


I checked with the Superintendent, John McDonald representing Jack Onofrio and AKC Rep, Alan Odom regarding breed ranking points for the BB dog given there were no points in any the classes. Since the judge did not disqualify and did award 1st place ribbons to the three AKC Rep at Alamagordo & Los Lunas Dog Showsclass bitches and Winners Dog, there were technically 4 dogs in competition so the Best of Breed Winner adds the Breed Points to his ranking.


I asked a long-time handler the question that was on everyone’s mind, “Why did he not just withhold the 1st place ribbon for each of the class entries instead of waiting for Winners Bitch?” The reply was that the judge couldn’t have known how the bitches would act when they came back in for Winners.


Well OK… We all know that the judge is the ultimate authority in his or her ring. You have paid your ever-increasing entry fee to obtain that opinion. As long as the judge abides by the AKC Rules and regulations as pertains to judging, they can do whatever they want. However, with fuel prices averaging over $3.00/gallon, even a fast food meal at over $5.00, and lodging at least $60.00 per night, showing isn’t cheap no matter how you slice it.


You have already spent the entry fee. No way to know what the entry would be but even though it turned out there were no points in dogs, you made the trip thinking, he’s pointed, good enough to place well at the National Specialty, and okay, you’ll happily settle for a chance at BW points. You travel hundreds of miles for that show and end up with nothing but a lot of expense. Granted there is no guarantee you’ll win, no matter what the entry, but it’s pretty hard to swallow, when there are points to be won and you don’t even have a chance to compete because suddenly that opportunity disappears through no fault of yours or your Winner’s Dog.


Guess you’re never too old to have new challenges, and events do happen.


This is the first time it’s ever happened to me and I’ve bred and finished many champions in three breeds. No other exhibitors I talked to at the show could recall it happening either. Have you ever seen this happen?  Rare though this must be, it could happen to anyone.  Let us hear your opinion on this topic.


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